the problem is that this kind -- here we are almost three months after the september 11th attacks in benghazi. we are still awaiting answers. we still can't get a straight story from this administration, and those who are in the upper levels of authority here, who oversaw this or at least have responsibility for it, including the secretary of state, none of of them have put themselves in a position before congress, before the media, before the american people to answer for this. it's what i think draws a lot of the frustration on capitol hill and i think in the public. megyn: how does it work for her if just her top lieutenants testify and she never does? this congress is ending at the end of this year, we'll start a new one, and she can we are told be called before the new congress and may even though she'll be out of a job because she is leaving her position as secretary of state. we saw that with what's his name, general. >> petraeus. megyn: he left his post and went become to testify. how likely is it that she will and how much if any does this have to do with hillary 2016. >> i think a l